Squadron Challenges - Revision history

RS David: categorized

2011-12-08T20:00:19Z

categorized

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Licah Fox: /* Implementation details */

2011-03-07T20:45:30Z

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 == Implementation details ==
 We perhaps don't need to keep an ''all-time ladder'' of individual members' efforts, as [[RS Ladder]] would be a better venue as it allows unlimited entries instead of a few per month.  There are some good leaderboards and standings that would be enjoyable to have, though:
 * Squadron standings: rank, overall W-L-T, margin of victory, total points, challenges issued/answered/total, individual W-L-F
 * "By type" statistics: number of challenges (issued, answered, total) of a certain type of challenge (available by individual and by squadron)
-=== Other pages ===
+'''Issue challenge''' (/challenges/issue)
-* Schedule: List through the end of the year of when squadrons face against others
+* Challenge page:
-** Can click on squadron name and it shows that squadron's schedule for the year, including past results
 to be continued . . .

Licah Fox: implementation details

2011-03-05T17:35:32Z

implementation details

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	..it's a tie!		..it's a tie!

	== ~~Other ideas~~ ==		== Implementation details ==
	* Perhaps don't need to keep an ''all-time ladder'' of ~~challenges~~, as [[RS Ladder]] would be a better venue.		We perhaps don't need to keep an ''all-time ladder'' of individual members' efforts, as [[RS Ladder]] would be a better venue as it allows unlimited entries instead of a few per month. There are some good leaderboards and standings that would be enjoyable to have, though:
			* Squadron standings: rank, overall W-L-T, margin of victory, total points, challenges issued/answered/total, individual W-L-F
			* "By type" statistics: number of challenges (issued, answered, total) of a certain type of challenge (available by individual and by squadron)

			=== Other pages ===
			* Schedule: List through the end of the year of when squadrons face against others
			** Can click on squadron name and it shows that squadron's schedule for the year, including past results

			* Match-up page: available for each squadron match-up
			to be continued . . .

Licah Fox: /* Types of challenges */

2011-03-05T17:27:01Z

Types of challenges

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	=== Types of challenges ===		=== Types of challenges ===
	* 1 [[~~single-player~~]] mission: both compete an unlimited number of times on a single-player X-Wing, TIE, XvT, or XWA mission. ~~An independent third party~~ selects this mission, ~~as otherwise the challenger would have~~ an unfair advantage ~~in being able to practice~~ the mission first.		* 1 [[singleplayer]] mission: both compete an unlimited number of times on a single-player X-Wing, TIE, XvT, or XWA mission. A competition administrator selects this mission, to prevent an unfair advantage of one person knowing the mission first.
	* 1 [[multiplayer]] match or mission: both compete in a 1v1 multiplayer match, any feasible game.		* 1 [[multiplayer]] match or mission: both compete in a 1v1 multiplayer match, any feasible game. If applicable, players must play on both hosts to ensure equality (in other words, follow [[ORW3]] rules)
	* 1 competitive [[sim]]: short		* 1 competitive [[sim]]: short, administered by a GM from [[ABG]]
	* 1 fictional ~~battle~~: e.g. "You must defeat an opponent with a superior gun. This setting: Trandoshan on planet Dantooine." ~~Independent judge awards the better-written and more-accurate fight.~~		* 1 fictional story (''categories'': Ground combat, flight combat, stealth). Write a short story, under 500 words. A competition judge awards the better-written and more-accurate fight. e.g. ground combat: "You must defeat an opponent with a superior gun. This setting: Trandoshan on planet Dantooine."

	Full list of possible challenges:		Full list of possible challenges:
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	* [[TIE Fighter]] SP		* [[TIE Fighter]] SP
	* [[XvT]] MP		* [[XvT]] MP
	* [[~~XVT~~]] SP		* [[XvT]] SP
	* [[XWA]] MP		* [[XWA]] MP
	* [[XWA]] SP		* [[XWA]] SP
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	* [[Fictional battle]]		* [[Fictional battle]]

	There is no limit to the ~~type of~~ challenges ~~participated~~ in a given month, except that every person may only issue 2 total challenges per month to the other squadron. So, ~~"person X" may~~ issue 2 XvT SP challenges and answer several more from the other squadron.		There is no limit to the challenges in which one may participate in a given month, except that every person may only issue 2 total challenges per month to the other squadron. So, someone could issue 2 XvT SP challenges and answer several more from the other squadron.

	=== Scoring system ===		=== Scoring system ===

Licah Fox: forfeits, playoffs edits

2011-03-05T17:19:45Z

forfeits, playoffs edits

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	'''''Squadron Challenges''''' is a proposed method of squadron competition under the new reorganization. It involves two squadrons matched up against each other each month, with people in those squadrons allowed to ~~challenge each~~ other ~~2 times~~ per month.		'''''Squadron Challenges''''' is a proposed method of squadron competition under the new reorganization. It involves two squadrons matched up against each other each month, with people in those squadrons allowed to issue challenges to the other squadron twice per month.

	~~Squadrons will work together as a unit~~, and ~~members will increase their~~ skills in ~~the~~ areas ~~in which they participate~~.		Possible benefits include greater squadron communication, unity, and improving one's skills in particular areas.

	== Challenges ==		== Challenges ==
	The overall goal of the challenges would be for one squadron to win against another by collecting more challenge points.		The overall goal of the challenges would be for one squadron to win against another by collecting more challenge points.

			=== How it works ===
	* Each month, every person gets 2 challenges that they can issue to the other squadron.		* Each month, every person gets 2 challenges that they can issue to the other squadron.
	* The other squadron must field an opponent, or the challenger wins by default.		* The other squadron must field an opponent, or the challenger wins by default.
	* This opponent may be anybody from the other squadron, and the other squadron may choose this person however they wish (volunteering ~~is fine, if their squadron agrees).~~		* This opponent may be anybody from the other squadron, and the other squadron may choose this person however they wish - probably volunteering will be the usual method.
	* There is no limit to number of challenges answered by one person.
	* Both of the 2 challenges issued per person may be in the same activity.
	* Some rules will be prescribed for what counts as "sufficient effort" while attempting to meet up for multiplayer, to reward matches taking place. The challenger can even lose by forfeit if they fail to make arrangements to show up, and the other person does show up. For MP, suggest a few steps to count as "sufficient effort": 1) must provide 10 possible and reasonable hours of availability, 2) must reserve at least 1 hour of mutually agreed-upon time, and must show up; 3) good faith must be maintained while setting up matches.
	* The challenges last for the entire month, or until they are answered.		* The challenges last for the entire month, or until they are answered.
	* Challenges may be issued up until the last week of the competition - i.e. no more challenges when 7 days from the deadline is reached.		* Challenges may be issued up until the last week of the competition - i.e. no more challenges when 7 days from the deadline is reached.
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	* [[Fictional battle]]		* [[Fictional battle]]

	There is no limit to the type of challenges participated in a given month, except that every person may only issue 2 total challenges per month to the other squadron.		There is no limit to the type of challenges participated in a given month, except that every person may only issue 2 total challenges per month to the other squadron. So, "person X" may issue 2 XvT SP challenges and answer several more from the other squadron.

	=== Scoring system ===		=== Scoring system ===
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	* No points are needed for draws, since they don't affect the overall squadron head-to-head record.		* No points are needed for draws, since they don't affect the overall squadron head-to-head record.
	* Won't punish "no challenges participated" too much in case someone prefers to participate in other ways.		* Won't punish "no challenges participated" too much in case someone prefers to participate in other ways.

			=== Forfeits ===
			We encourage all players to participate in all challenges. Good faith should be maintained above all - we're here to participate with our fellow RSers, and the challenge system enables that.

			We recognize that forfeits will happen occasionally, for whatever reason, so herewith are some guidelines. If a challenge only involves both parties making a submission at their leisure, then forfeiting will be simple and obvious: the person who did not submit loses the forfeit.

			If, however, the two people must meet for direct competition (multiplayer or a sim), the matter of forfeits will become more complex. The two people should work out between themselves who has earned the forfeit victory, or if a draw should be had. If this decision proves intractable, there will be a ''forfeit review period'' from the 1st through the 5th of each month, during which the ''forfeit review board'' will hear appeals from both parties if the automatic ruling of a forfeit is challenged.

			The board will look for ''sufficient effort'' undertaken while attempting to meet up for multiplayer. The challenger can even lose by forfeit (i.e. the forfeit is reversed) if they fail to make arrangements to show up, and the other person does show up. Matchups, unless otherwise arranged, should be made via IRC; other people (and [[MrBot]]) can verify if both people were present and ready to participate.

			After this 5-day period, the board will decide, and update the scoreboard accordingly.

			'''Important note''': The review board is a last resort, and should not be needed - indeed, it may even be cranky about being summoned. Members should complete their challenges against each other - and if that's not possible, should work out between themselves who deserves the win by forfeit, or whether it should be a draw. This is a friendly competition and the board should not need to resolve disputes, but exists in case members are unable to sort things out themselves.

	== Season ==		== Season ==
	The squadron matchups would take place over a ''season'', during which squadrons compile records against each other. Each matchup would be one month long, and run from (say) the 8th of the month until the last day.		The squadron matchups would take place over a ''season'', during which squadrons compile records against each other. Each matchup would be one month long, and run from (say) the 8th of the month until the last day.

	''~~Playoffs~~'' would occur at the end of the season, matching up the ~~four~~ squadrons with the best records.		A ''championship match'' would occur at the end of the season, matching up the two squadrons with the best records.
	* For tiebreakers ~~of playoffs~~ (if squadrons have the same record):		* For tiebreakers to get into the championship match (if squadrons have the same record):
	# head-to-head record with tied teams;		# head-to-head record with tied teams;
			# cumulative margin of victory;
	# overall points earned in the challenge for the year.		# overall points earned in the challenge for the year.
	~~# coin flip, as it's extremely unlikely that this point is reached.~~

	A season starting in April would then look like this:		A season starting in April would then look like this:
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	* 6: September 8-30		* 6: September 8-30
	* 7: October 8-31		* 7: October 8-31
	* ~~Playoffs semifinals (top 4 teams)~~: November 8-30		* 8: November 8-31
	* ~~Playoffs finals~~ (top 2): December 8-31		* Championship match (top 2 squadrons): December 8-31

	Overall winner for the year crowned on January 1.		Overall winner for the year crowned on January 1.

	Note: ~~with twelve~~ total ~~squadrons~~, ~~it's not possible~~ for ~~every squadron to challenge every other squadron within one year and still have playoffs; the previous schedule should be taken into account when devising~~ the ~~next year's schedule, so all squadrons challenge all others within 1.5 years~~.		Note: In a full year, all 12 squadrons will match up against each other once (for a total of 11 months), with December being reserved for the championship match.

	=== Rewards ===		=== Rewards ===

Licah Fox: /* Types of challenges */ full list

2011-03-04T21:55:41Z

Types of challenges: full list

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	* 1 fictional battle: e.g. "You must defeat an opponent with a superior gun. This setting: Trandoshan on planet Dantooine." Independent judge awards the better-written and more-accurate fight.		* 1 fictional battle: e.g. "You must defeat an opponent with a superior gun. This setting: Trandoshan on planet Dantooine." Independent judge awards the better-written and more-accurate fight.

			Full list of possible challenges:
			* [[X-Wing]] SP
			* [[TIE Fighter]] SP
			* [[XvT]] MP
			* [[XVT]] SP
			* [[XWA]] MP
			* [[XWA]] SP
			* [[Empire at War]] MP
			* [[Empire at War]] SP
			* [[Battlefront 2]] MP
			* [[Sim]]
			* [[Fictional battle]]

			There is no limit to the type of challenges participated in a given month, except that every person may only issue 2 total challenges per month to the other squadron.

	=== Scoring system ===		=== Scoring system ===

Licah Fox: incorporate more

2011-03-04T21:50:40Z

incorporate more

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	'''''Squadron Challenges''''' is a proposed method of squadron competition under the new reorganization. It involves two squadrons matched up against each other each month, with people in those squadrons allowed to challenge each other 2 times per month.		'''''Squadron Challenges''''' is a proposed method of squadron competition under the new reorganization. It involves two squadrons matched up against each other each month, with people in those squadrons allowed to challenge each other 2 times per month.

			Squadrons will work together as a unit, and members will increase their skills in the areas in which they participate.

	== Challenges ==		== Challenges ==
	The overall goal of the challenges would be for one squadron to win against another by collecting more challenge points.		The overall goal of the challenges would be for one squadron to win against another by collecting more challenge points.

			* Each month, every person gets 2 challenges that they can issue to the other squadron.
			* The other squadron must field an opponent, or the challenger wins by default.
			* This opponent may be anybody from the other squadron, and the other squadron may choose this person however they wish (volunteering is fine, if their squadron agrees).
			* There is no limit to number of challenges answered by one person.
			* Both of the 2 challenges issued per person may be in the same activity.
			* Some rules will be prescribed for what counts as "sufficient effort" while attempting to meet up for multiplayer, to reward matches taking place. The challenger can even lose by forfeit if they fail to make arrangements to show up, and the other person does show up. For MP, suggest a few steps to count as "sufficient effort": 1) must provide 10 possible and reasonable hours of availability, 2) must reserve at least 1 hour of mutually agreed-upon time, and must show up; 3) good faith must be maintained while setting up matches.
			* The challenges last for the entire month, or until they are answered.
			* Challenges may be issued up until the last week of the competition - i.e. no more challenges when 7 days from the deadline is reached.

			=== Types of challenges ===
			* 1 [[single-player]] mission: both compete an unlimited number of times on a single-player X-Wing, TIE, XvT, or XWA mission. An independent third party selects this mission, as otherwise the challenger would have an unfair advantage in being able to practice the mission first.
			* 1 [[multiplayer]] match or mission: both compete in a 1v1 multiplayer match, any feasible game.
			* 1 competitive [[sim]]: short
			* 1 fictional battle: e.g. "You must defeat an opponent with a superior gun. This setting: Trandoshan on planet Dantooine." Independent judge awards the better-written and more-accurate fight.



	=== Scoring system ===		=== Scoring system ===
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	'''Individuals'''		'''Individuals'''
	5 - win		* 5 - win
	3 - win by forfeit		* 3 - win by forfeit
	3 - loss		* 3 - loss
	0 - loss by forfeit		* 0 - loss by forfeit
	0 - draw, or mutual forfeit		* 0 - draw, or mutual forfeit
	-2 - at end of month, if no challenges issued or answered by a person		* -2 - at end of month, if no challenges issued or answered by a person

	'''Squadrons'''		'''Squadrons'''
	+5 - All challenges followed through by a squadron (no forfeits)		* +5 - All challenges followed through by a squadron (no forfeits)

	Goals of the scoring system:		Goals of the scoring system:
	- Actually playing a match and losing is rewarded more than forfeiting.		* Actually playing a match and losing is rewarded more than forfeiting.
	- No points are needed for draws, since they don't affect the overall squadron head-to-head record.		* No points are needed for draws, since they don't affect the overall squadron head-to-head record.
	- Won't punish "no challenges participated" too much in case someone prefers to participate in other ways.		* Won't punish "no challenges participated" too much in case someone prefers to participate in other ways.

	== Season ==		== Season ==
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	''Playoffs'' would occur at the end of the season, matching up the four squadrons with the best records.		''Playoffs'' would occur at the end of the season, matching up the four squadrons with the best records.
			* For tiebreakers of playoffs (if squadrons have the same record):
			# head-to-head record with tied teams;
			# overall points earned in the challenge for the year.
			# coin flip, as it's extremely unlikely that this point is reached.

	A season starting in April would then look like this:		A season starting in April would then look like this:
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	* 6: September 8-30		* 6: September 8-30
	* 7: October 8-31		* 7: October 8-31
	* Playoffs semifinals: November 8-30		* Playoffs semifinals (top 4 teams): November 8-30
	* Playoffs finals: December 8-31		* Playoffs finals (top 2): December 8-31

			Overall winner for the year crowned on January 1.

			Note: with twelve total squadrons, it's not possible for every squadron to challenge every other squadron within one year and still have playoffs; the previous schedule should be taken into account when devising the next year's schedule, so all squadrons challenge all others within 1.5 years.

	~~Note~~: ~~with twelve total~~ squadrons, it's not possible for every squadron to challenge every other squadron within one year and still have playoffs; the previous schedule should be taken into account when devising the next year's schedule.		=== Rewards ===
			Some suggested medals at the end of the season:
			* Top 3 squadrons (all earn uniform-visible medals)
			* More ideas?

	=== Example ~~rounds~~ ===		=== Example schedule ===
	'''Round 1''' (e.g. April 2011)		'''Round 1''' (e.g. April 2011)
	* [[FireClaw]] vs [[Gold]]		* [[FireClaw]] vs [[Gold]]
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	* [[Chisha]] vs [[Gold]]		* [[Chisha]] vs [[Gold]]

	== ~~Ladder~~ ==		=== Example challenge ===
	~~incorporate~~ ideas ~~from~~ [[RS Ladder]]		Let's say FireClaw is matched up against Red Dragon in a given month.

			FireClaw:
			* Kirghy does two XvT challenges, 1 SP, 1 MP. Adam Mieter loses SP challenge, Sconn wins MP challenge.
			* Licah issues an X-Wing challenge, but no one responds; RDS forfeits. Licah challenges XWA MP, Adam responds, but they are unable to get the Internet connection working. It's a wash.

			RDS:
			* Adam issues two XWA challenges, both SP. Kirghy responds 1 SP challenge and wins, but not the other, and forfeits.

			Total:
			* '''16''' FireClaw (13 Kirghy, 3 Licah)
			* '''14''' RDS (9 Adam, 5 Sconn)
			...so FireClaw picks up the "win" for that month.

			However, if you factor in people who didn't participate,
			* '''4''' FireClaw (-12, 6 people did not participate)
			* '''4''' RDS (-10, 5 people DNP)
			..it's a tie!

			== Other ideas ==
			* Perhaps don't need to keep an ''all-time ladder'' of challenges, as [[RS Ladder]] would be a better venue.

Licah Fox: creating....

2011-03-04T21:38:49Z

creating....

New page

'''''Squadron Challenges''''' is a proposed method of squadron competition under the new reorganization. It involves two squadrons matched up against each other each month, with people in those squadrons allowed to challenge each other 2 times per month.

== Challenges ==
The overall goal of the challenges would be for one squadron to win against another by collecting more challenge points.

=== Scoring system ===
A scoring system will be created on the website that tracks all of these points in real-time.

'''Individuals'''
5 - win
3 - win by forfeit
3 - loss
0 - loss by forfeit
0 - draw, or mutual forfeit
-2 - at end of month, if no challenges issued or answered by a person

'''Squadrons'''
+5 - All challenges followed through by a squadron (no forfeits)

Goals of the scoring system:
- Actually playing a match and losing is rewarded more than forfeiting.
- No points are needed for draws, since they don't affect the overall squadron head-to-head record.
- Won't punish "no challenges participated" too much in case someone prefers to participate in other ways.

== Season ==
The squadron matchups would take place over a ''season'', during which squadrons compile records against each other. Each matchup would be one month long, and run from (say) the 8th of the month until the last day.

''Playoffs'' would occur at the end of the season, matching up the four squadrons with the best records.

A season starting in April would then look like this:
* Month 1: April 8-30, 2011
* 2: May 8-31
* 3: June 8-30
* 4: July 8-31
* 5: August 8-31
* 6: September 8-30
* 7: October 8-31
* Playoffs semifinals: November 8-30
* Playoffs finals: December 8-31

Note: with twelve total squadrons, it's not possible for every squadron to challenge every other squadron within one year and still have playoffs; the previous schedule should be taken into account when devising the next year's schedule.

=== Example rounds ===
'''Round 1''' (e.g. April 2011)
* [[FireClaw]] vs [[Gold]]
* [[Red]] vs [[Red Dragon]]
* [[Dagger]] vs [[Resurrection]]
* [[Renegade]] vs [[Rapier]]
* [[Lancer]] vs [[Zealot]]
* [[Chisha]] vs [[Shochu]]

'''Round 2''' (e.g. May 2011)
* [[FireClaw]] vs [[Red Dragon]]
* [[Red]] vs [[Resurrection]]
* [[Dagger]] vs [[Rapier]]
* [[Renegade]] vs [[Zealot]]
* [[Lancer]] vs [[Shochu]]
* [[Chisha]] vs [[Gold]]

== Ladder ==
incorporate ideas from [[RS Ladder]]