Talk:Outer Rim War III - Revision history

David Vaughan: Undo revision 12025 by CnaviChiva (Talk)

2007-12-30T02:09:22Z

Undo revision 12025 by CnaviChiva (Talk)

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	== To do ==		== To do ==

CnaviChiva: basreleltli

2007-12-30T02:00:52Z

basreleltli

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Dave at 03:22, 17 January 2007

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 * Code the IRC bot (5% completed)
 * Code the webpage (30% completed)
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 *In cases where two factions striking at one world are both successful, it seems likely that the faction fielding the most successful matches in attacking the world will claim it, with the other attacker yielding the world after helping crush the defences
 *Any world is potentially available to be fought over per battle, however the guildein will be to attempt to designate the worlds closest to each other for logistics/storyline reasons

Ray Djo at 10:47, 2 October 2006

2006-10-02T10:47:39Z

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	== Pirates ==		== Pirates ==
	Yar har fiddly dee! --[[User:Sair\|Sair]] 03:03, 26 August 2006 (EDT)		Yar har fiddly dee! --[[User:Sair\|Sair]] 03:03, 26 August 2006 (EDT)

			== Bot Suggestions ==
			This is just a suggestion from a veteran of the first two OR conflicts... One of the major problems we had in the last OR was that the waiting lists were public... This meant that when a "good" pilot was next up, opposing players would avoid creating a match. Sometimes it ended up just being a waiting game until they had a noob to sacrifice on the better player.

			There is a simple solution to this, though... If players are able to join the lists by private messaging the bot, then it isn't publicly known who is waiting until the match is announced.

	== Map Concepts (backup) ==		== Map Concepts (backup) ==

David Vaughan: /* RS fictional logistics */

2006-09-29T12:32:25Z

RS fictional logistics

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	(taken from the main article and placed here because it's specific to the RS only)		(taken from the main article and placed here because it's specific to the RS only)
	*Storywise, this is really easy to set up for the RS:		*Storywise, this is really easy to set up for the RS:
	<del>**Imperial activity on RS borders has backed off significantly lately.		**<del>Imperial activity on RS borders has backed off significantly lately.</del>
	**[[Patriot Battle Fleet]] and [[Retribution Wing]] forces are investigating pirate activity in the [[Minos Cluster]] (hardly World War III material, as far as the Galactic Civil War goes).		**[[Patriot Battle Fleet]] and [[Retribution Wing]] forces are investigating pirate activity in the [[Minos Cluster]] (hardly World War III material, as far as the Galactic Civil War goes).
	**[[Vigilance Strike Fleet]] (the reformed [[Renegade Fleet]] and [[Intrepid Battle Group]] fleets) and the [[Righteous Indignation Division]] can start their first tours out as an expeditionary force to this region of space.		**[[Vigilance Strike Fleet]] (the reformed [[Renegade Fleet]] and [[Intrepid Battle Group]] fleets) and the [[Righteous Indignation Division]] can start their first tours out as an expeditionary force to this region of space.
	**We just need to figure out a reason why the sector's worth fighting over, without actually making it inherently valuable (perhaps merely to deny other factions from having outposts might be reason enough?).		**We just need to figure out a reason why the sector's worth fighting over, without actually making it inherently valuable (perhaps merely to deny other factions from having outposts might be reason enough?).
	**The Imperial Super Star Destroyer ''Blade'' can be leading Imperial forces there (storywise for the RS campaigns (VSF Tour 1 and RID Tour 1), so RS forces are countering its threat abroad.		**<del>The Imperial Super Star Destroyer ''Blade'' can be leading Imperial forces there (storywise for the RS campaigns (VSF Tour 1 and RID Tour 1), so RS forces are countering its threat abroad.</del>
	**The VSF and RID campaigns can be planned solidly with details kept loose to account for changes in the competition climate (i.e. regarding who's winning, and what worlds are possessed by which factions).~~</del>~~		**The VSF and RID campaigns can be planned solidly with details kept loose to account for changes in the competition climate (i.e. regarding who's winning, and what worlds are possessed by which factions).

	:::This information has been revised somewhat. I will post the current version:		:::This information has been revised somewhat. I will post the current version:

David Vaughan: /* RS fictional logistics */

2006-09-29T12:31:36Z

RS fictional logistics

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	(taken from the main article and placed here because it's specific to the RS only)		(taken from the main article and placed here because it's specific to the RS only)
	*Storywise, this is really easy to set up for the RS:		*Storywise, this is really easy to set up for the RS:
	**Imperial activity on RS borders has backed off significantly lately.		<del>**Imperial activity on RS borders has backed off significantly lately.
	**[[Patriot Battle Fleet]] and [[Retribution Wing]] forces are investigating pirate activity in the [[Minos Cluster]] (hardly World War III material, as far as the Galactic Civil War goes).		**[[Patriot Battle Fleet]] and [[Retribution Wing]] forces are investigating pirate activity in the [[Minos Cluster]] (hardly World War III material, as far as the Galactic Civil War goes).
	**[[Vigilance Strike Fleet]] (the reformed [[Renegade Fleet]] and [[Intrepid Battle Group]] fleets) and the [[Righteous Indignation Division]] can start their first tours out as an expeditionary force to this region of space.		**[[Vigilance Strike Fleet]] (the reformed [[Renegade Fleet]] and [[Intrepid Battle Group]] fleets) and the [[Righteous Indignation Division]] can start their first tours out as an expeditionary force to this region of space.
	**We just need to figure out a reason why the sector's worth fighting over, without actually making it inherently valuable (perhaps merely to deny other factions from having outposts might be reason enough?).		**We just need to figure out a reason why the sector's worth fighting over, without actually making it inherently valuable (perhaps merely to deny other factions from having outposts might be reason enough?).
	**The Imperial Super Star Destroyer ''Blade'' can be leading Imperial forces there (storywise for the RS campaigns (VSF Tour 1 and RID Tour 1), so RS forces are countering its threat abroad.		**The Imperial Super Star Destroyer ''Blade'' can be leading Imperial forces there (storywise for the RS campaigns (VSF Tour 1 and RID Tour 1), so RS forces are countering its threat abroad.
	**The VSF and RID campaigns can be planned solidly with details kept loose to account for changes in the competition climate (i.e. regarding who's winning, and what worlds are possessed by which factions).		**The VSF and RID campaigns can be planned solidly with details kept loose to account for changes in the competition climate (i.e. regarding who's winning, and what worlds are possessed by which factions).</del>

	:::This information has been revised somewhat. I will post the current version:		:::This information has been revised somewhat. I will post the current version:

David Vaughan: /* RS fictional logistics */

2006-09-29T12:31:07Z

RS fictional logistics

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	:::This information has been revised somewhat. I will post the current version:		:::This information has been revised somewhat. I will post the current version:
	:::''Before the Outer Rim War III / Subterrel Conflict begins, and not part of the official Subterrel Conflict competition storyline (i.e. only covered in the VSF/RID campaign based on the competition storyline and climate.''		:::'''Before the Outer Rim War III / Subterrel Conflict begins, and not part of the official Subterrel Conflict competition storyline (i.e. only covered in the VSF/RID campaign based on the competition storyline and climate.'''
	:::*Imperial and Sith factions discover something of importance in the Subterrel Sector that requires the control of twelve separate worlds to have access to.		:::*Imperial and Sith factions discover something of importance in the Subterrel Sector that requires the control of twelve separate worlds to have access to.
	:::*RS spies discover vital information about the Imperial and Sith presence in the Subterrel Sector, and have some idea as to what is going on. They are pursued by an Imperial interdiction force, but manage to escape from the Imperial forces, who presume that they have made it back to RS space. Unfortuntely for the RS, the spies are instead intercepted by a Sith interdiction force, and silenced fatally.		:::*RS spies discover vital information about the Imperial and Sith presence in the Subterrel Sector, and have some idea as to what is going on. They are pursued by an Imperial interdiction force, but manage to escape from the Imperial forces, who presume that they have made it back to RS space. Unfortuntely for the RS, the spies are instead intercepted by a Sith interdiction force, and silenced fatally.
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	:::*The RS decide that they cannot let such an attack stand, and so muster their forces to strike back at the Imperial forces, engaging them as they attempt to retreat back to the Subterrel Sector.		:::*The RS decide that they cannot let such an attack stand, and so muster their forces to strike back at the Imperial forces, engaging them as they attempt to retreat back to the Subterrel Sector.
	:::*After arriving in the Subterrel Sector and waging their war against the Imperial forces, the RS eventually discover what is happening in the region, and decide that they cannot let either the Imperial or Sith factions control the thing of importance in the sector, and so strive to deny them from holding the twelve important worlds.		:::*After arriving in the Subterrel Sector and waging their war against the Imperial forces, the RS eventually discover what is happening in the region, and decide that they cannot let either the Imperial or Sith factions control the thing of importance in the sector, and so strive to deny them from holding the twelve important worlds.
	:::''The Outer Rim War III / Subterrel Conflict begins, as far as the official Subterrel Conflict competition storyline is concerned''		:::'''The Outer Rim War III / Subterrel Conflict begins, as far as the official Subterrel Conflict competition storyline is concerned'''
	:::*The Rebel (RS and allies), Imperial (EH and allies), Sith (DB and allies) have managed to control four of the twelve vital worlds each.		:::*The Rebel (RS and allies), Imperial (EH and allies), Sith (DB and allies) have managed to control four of the twelve vital worlds each.
	:::*The board is set, and the war begins — who will be the victor of the Subterrel Conflict?		:::*The board is set, and the war begins — who will be the victor of the Subterrel Conflict?

David Vaughan: /* RS fictional logistics */

2006-09-29T12:30:37Z

RS fictional logistics

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 **The Imperial Super Star Destroyer ''Blade'' can be leading Imperial forces there (storywise for the RS campaigns (VSF Tour 1 and RID Tour 1), so RS forces are countering its threat abroad.
 **The VSF and RID campaigns can be planned solidly with details kept loose to account for changes in the competition climate (i.e. regarding who's winning, and what worlds are possessed by which factions).
 == Pirates ==

David Vaughan at 12:14, 29 September 2006

2006-09-29T12:14:12Z

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	*Before each (week- or fortnight-long) battle of the Subterrel Conflict is fought, the ORWIII design team determines which worlds are being fought over — unlike some of the previous concepts, this does not use strict rules determining which worlds are to be fought over, as the locations as indicated on that map draft will be randomised slightly to make a more organic-looking configuration that is roughly in that shape (akin to constellations as seen in space that look sort of like object, but aren't perfectly formed).		*Before each (week- or fortnight-long) battle of the Subterrel Conflict is fought, the ORWIII design team determines which worlds are being fought over — unlike some of the previous concepts, this does not use strict rules determining which worlds are to be fought over, as the locations as indicated on that map draft will be randomised slightly to make a more organic-looking configuration that is roughly in that shape (akin to constellations as seen in space that look sort of like object, but aren't perfectly formed).
	*The number of worlds to be fought over can be one of two options:		*The number of worlds to be fought over can be one of two options:
	##3 only		#3 only
	##3–6		#3–6
	**Option 1 uses one world per faction per round, with any incursive matches against each team being against the world denoted of that team for the battle (i.e. if Rebel challenges Imperial in battle, the Imperial player is fighting in defence of their world — this might make players more proactive, by encouraging them to pick fights rather than wait for themselves to be challenged by others)		*Option 1 uses one world per faction per round, with any incursive matches against each team being against the world denoted of that team for the battle (i.e. if Rebel challenges Imperial in battle, the Imperial player is fighting in defence of their world — this might make players more proactive, by encouraging them to pick fights rather than wait for themselves to be challenged by others)
	**Option 2 allows the possibility of having up to two worlds per faction to be defended each battle, with enemy factions striking at different held worlds		*Option 2 allows the possibility of having up to two worlds per faction to be defended each battle, with enemy factions striking at different held worlds
	**In cases where two factions striking at one world are both successful, it seems likely that the faction fielding the most successful matches in attacking the world will claim it, with the other attacker yielding the world after helping crush the defences		*In cases where two factions striking at one world are both successful, it seems likely that the faction fielding the most successful matches in attacking the world will claim it, with the other attacker yielding the world after helping crush the defences
	*Any world is potentially available to be fought over per battle, however the guildein will be to attempt to designate the worlds closest to each other for logistics/storyline reasons		*Any world is potentially available to be fought over per battle, however the guildein will be to attempt to designate the worlds closest to each other for logistics/storyline reasons

David Vaughan: /* Map Concepts (backup) */

2006-09-29T12:12:23Z

Map Concepts (backup)

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	'''Cons'''		'''Cons'''
	*Same as Concept 3, insofar as it is not a natural-looking configuration		*Same as Concept 3, insofar as it is not a natural-looking configuration


			== Map Discussion ==

			=== Concept 5 ===
			As it has been nigh impossible to have a realtime discussion with relevant parties about this, I went off and worked out another possible solution combining a number of the features of the previous concepts.

			'''Concept 5'''

			''These locations will be randomised slightly to present a more organic influence based on this configuration''
			[[Image:SectorMap5.png\|Sector Map Concept 5 for Subterrel Conflict]]

			*Before each (week- or fortnight-long) battle of the Subterrel Conflict is fought, the ORWIII design team determines which worlds are being fought over — unlike some of the previous concepts, this does not use strict rules determining which worlds are to be fought over, as the locations as indicated on that map draft will be randomised slightly to make a more organic-looking configuration that is roughly in that shape (akin to constellations as seen in space that look sort of like object, but aren't perfectly formed).
			*The number of worlds to be fought over can be one of two options:
			##3 only
			##3–6
			**Option 1 uses one world per faction per round, with any incursive matches against each team being against the world denoted of that team for the battle (i.e. if Rebel challenges Imperial in battle, the Imperial player is fighting in defence of their world — this might make players more proactive, by encouraging them to pick fights rather than wait for themselves to be challenged by others)
			**Option 2 allows the possibility of having up to two worlds per faction to be defended each battle, with enemy factions striking at different held worlds
			**In cases where two factions striking at one world are both successful, it seems likely that the faction fielding the most successful matches in attacking the world will claim it, with the other attacker yielding the world after helping crush the defences
			*Any world is potentially available to be fought over per battle, however the guildein will be to attempt to designate the worlds closest to each other for logistics/storyline reasons