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What about our fleet "history"?
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- Licah
- Licah
== What about our fleet "history"? ==
My main concern on this whole thing of merging the fleets, lies in what to do about our history, and by that I mean the things Spokes mention.
To make one thing clear right away: I'm not out to "defend" my own position as fleet CO and member of the HC. I'll gladly give that up if it serves the club and the fleet I serve.
The reason for me to focus on the fleet history...well, I guess it has something to do with my own time in here. I've been active in the IBG for 3,5 years, and have met quite a number of people during this time. A number of these are still around, some were here when I joined, some joined about the same time as myself, and some came later. I've flown for Dagger all the time. I've fought and done what I could to make my squad the best one in the fleet. I've achieved all I want to when it comes to flying. This is reflected in our rankings; the merit ranking and the cummulative ITOD ranking. I'm proud of those two lists. Not only because I'm up there at the top, but because in a way they're the only real documentation of what's happened in the fleet for the last four years.
Almost two years back we remade the merit system in the IBG. Vender was CO at the time. It gave us a much better merit system, but it ruined the fun for some of the veterans, as much of their effort and hard work suddenly was "nullified". I fear the same might happen if we suddenly were to start from scratch. Also, remember what happened when Rahj suddenly got that idea about messing with the rankings. So, either we have to make a new structure that will continue the traditions, or we'll have to start preparing the members on what will happen, and then wait a few months, so that they'll get used to the idea, and at the same time start an open discussion on the bbs, where all the members can state their opinions.
Personally, if we start over, I know I'll simply no longer care for the merits and medals; I'll probably dedicate myself to making missions, and solving missions other makes.
I tend to think a model where the existing fleets are placed in wings, and where they can continue the activity they have as they want to, is the best. But I admit this is because I care most for the IBG. I need more time.
The structure drawn up looks nice enough, though, even if it's an early version, and a number of things need to be looked at more closely. What about new cadets? Is the idea to get the academy back? Or will our model be the one followed? With that many squads and pilots under one CO, we'd need some kind of Personell Officer to take care of the contact with the members.
It's getting late, so I'll have to stop. Only one more things that got into my head right now. If, and only if, we decide to do this, then we can make a two or three missions minitour for each fleet, fix it in time to Thrawn's victorious period, and let our fleets be beaten and partly destroyed. We will loose the ships that belongs to the decomissioned squads. We will loose our bases. We will be forced to regroup - and restructure.
Himm

Revision as of 22:59, 27 October 2004

Taking a look a the new Squadron structure (is this flying only?) gives me a better idea of what Licah had proposed on RSHC. I really wasn't having much luck visualizing it.

This raises a few of questions for how it plays out (new structure) and how the old info/records are folded in:

1. Can any pilot fly any mission? If so, we need to make it VERY clear to folks that there is no longer a game-based distinction for Squad placement.

2. How will Merit be tracked and who will be responsible for multiple reports on various ITODs (this must cover posting scores, awarding Merit, Medals, etcetera).

3. Do we lose the current "Fleet-based" Medals? If so, what will replace them. If not, will we just rename them to reflect the various games?

4. With multiple ITODs, how will we measure/reward Squadrons?

I may have more later, but I'm certain that we will need ready answers for these issues.

~Spokes

A rough draft

Spokes,

I've largely updated the Common ITOD page in response to your questions. Of particular note is the merit system, and my thoughts on it on the discussion page. As this is a very tricky issue, I'd welcome lots of input.

And indeed, it's flying units only.

- Licah

What about our fleet "history"?

My main concern on this whole thing of merging the fleets, lies in what to do about our history, and by that I mean the things Spokes mention.

To make one thing clear right away: I'm not out to "defend" my own position as fleet CO and member of the HC. I'll gladly give that up if it serves the club and the fleet I serve.

The reason for me to focus on the fleet history...well, I guess it has something to do with my own time in here. I've been active in the IBG for 3,5 years, and have met quite a number of people during this time. A number of these are still around, some were here when I joined, some joined about the same time as myself, and some came later. I've flown for Dagger all the time. I've fought and done what I could to make my squad the best one in the fleet. I've achieved all I want to when it comes to flying. This is reflected in our rankings; the merit ranking and the cummulative ITOD ranking. I'm proud of those two lists. Not only because I'm up there at the top, but because in a way they're the only real documentation of what's happened in the fleet for the last four years.

Almost two years back we remade the merit system in the IBG. Vender was CO at the time. It gave us a much better merit system, but it ruined the fun for some of the veterans, as much of their effort and hard work suddenly was "nullified". I fear the same might happen if we suddenly were to start from scratch. Also, remember what happened when Rahj suddenly got that idea about messing with the rankings. So, either we have to make a new structure that will continue the traditions, or we'll have to start preparing the members on what will happen, and then wait a few months, so that they'll get used to the idea, and at the same time start an open discussion on the bbs, where all the members can state their opinions. Personally, if we start over, I know I'll simply no longer care for the merits and medals; I'll probably dedicate myself to making missions, and solving missions other makes.

I tend to think a model where the existing fleets are placed in wings, and where they can continue the activity they have as they want to, is the best. But I admit this is because I care most for the IBG. I need more time.

The structure drawn up looks nice enough, though, even if it's an early version, and a number of things need to be looked at more closely. What about new cadets? Is the idea to get the academy back? Or will our model be the one followed? With that many squads and pilots under one CO, we'd need some kind of Personell Officer to take care of the contact with the members.


It's getting late, so I'll have to stop. Only one more things that got into my head right now. If, and only if, we decide to do this, then we can make a two or three missions minitour for each fleet, fix it in time to Thrawn's victorious period, and let our fleets be beaten and partly destroyed. We will loose the ships that belongs to the decomissioned squads. We will loose our bases. We will be forced to regroup - and restructure.

Himm